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right now. >> we have to leave it there. bernie, gedidia, steve, thank you so much. we toss it now to greta van susteren, standing by live to go "on the record." hi, greta. >> greta: tonight, a free for all in florida, the final four candidates are ripping each other apart, days before the all-important florida primary. no one is spared. senator rich rick santorum is h. >> we discovered to our shock, mitt romney owns shares of fannie and freddie. governor romney made a million dollars off selling some of that. he has an investment in goldman sachs, which is today foreclosing on floridians, so maybe governor romney should tell us how much money he has made on households that have been foreclosed. >> i don't own stock in fannie
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and freddie. there are bonds that the investor has held through mutual funds. mr. speaker, i know that sounds like an enormous revelation, but have you checked your own investments? you also have investments from mutual funds that invest in fannie and freddie cheers cheers. >> they both made mon frefannie and freddie. should they return that money? >> that subject doesn't really interest me a whole lot. blue the question is what are we going to do about fannie and freddie. it should have been auctioned off right after the crash came. the bigger issue is that these two gentlemen are playing petty personal politics. can we set aside that newt was a member of congress and used the skills that he developed as a member of congress to advise companies and that's not the worst thing in the world and
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that mitt romney is a wealthy guy because he worked hard and he's working hard and you see guys, leave that alone and focus on the issues! [cheers and applause] >>r. >> greta: where do the candidates stand now? dick morris is here. tuesday is just around the corner. they just have the final debate. any huge political developments? did any of them really advance or hurt their cause tonight in the debate? >> well, romney had a lead going into the debate, one poll has him 7 ahead, and the other has him 8 ahead. romney loses by 5 points and wins women by 19. so i think that mary an gingrich had an impact. this is newt's chance to take away the lead and i think that romney probably won and got the best of the fannie and freddie exchange. i think he did very, very well in the debate. i thought santorum did lbut i do
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not think that newt did very well. he needed a standout, newt gingrich vintage performance and he didn't do it. >> greta: what's the path to success for each one of these candidates? what has to happen? >> what is going on in february, it was a neat thing that romney's people did. they arranged, i think they arranged through their friends in the state legislature, to have all the mitt romney friendly states be the only ones that have primaries or caucuses in february. so tuesday, there is flor do, but saturday, there is nevada, nen there is maine in new england, which he will win and then there is colrado and minnesota, both of which he won four years ago. then there is michigan and arizona, both of which he won four years ago. and those are the only contests in february. by the way, only one debate in the month, so newt has a limed opportunity to get well. if newt wins in florida, this will be a contest that will continue. if newt loses in florida and
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romney wins, he will then, i think, proceed to sweep the table and i think this contest will be over. >> greta: how about for senator santorum, is there a path for him at this point? >> first of all, i think he is very impressive. i think everyone watching the debates comes away dazzled by rick santorum. right now, unfortunately, it is a zero sum game gone romny and gingrich. and they're passionate on both sides and nobody wants not to vote for one or the other. if this contest goes on, meaning if gingrich wins in florida and romney wins the february contest and it goes into march and april, people will get sick and tired of romney and gingrich fighting and santorum can look better and better. but if romney wins the vote on tuesday, which at this point, i think that he will, then i think this race will functionally be over. >> greta: all right.
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in terms of looking ahead to the general election. one of these men will take on president obam awhich is different from a primary. what is the gravest vulnerability of each candidate in a general election against president obama? >> obviously with romney, it's the romneycare. how will you attack obamacare when have you romneycare-- is that fatal? >> no, it is not fatal? let me ask you this. i was watching the twitter account and david axelrod was watching and he was instrumental in the success of these cam campaigns. in plain explaining the massachusetts plan, mitt offered an elquant explanation of the affordable care act that he says he would repeal. >> that's what obam's's going to say, but i think that romney distinguishes from it and i think by the way, that's not going to be an issue.
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i think the court will throw it out in june. but in any case, i think that is romney's biggest vulnerability. i think gingrich's biggest vulnerability is the fannie and freddie thing. i think that obama can say that you were part of freddie mac that caused this crisis. i am undoing your work. newt has yet to give us a convincing explanation of what he did for $300,000 a year at freddie mac. he said he wasn't a lobbyist, he didn't advocate it. what did you do? the last debate, he said he was teaching them the history of washington, d.c. i find that hard to believe. let me say this. i think that gingrich or romney could defeat obamaa or santorum. i think none of these flaws are fatal. i think when i get right down do it, i would say this, if you think the major problem facing this country is turning the economy around, you probably want to vote for romney. if you think it's reversing
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obamacare and obama's socialist legislation, you want to vote for newt. if you think the biggest problem facing the country is social conserveatism, family choice, abortion, life, gay marriage and that stuff, you probably want to vote for santorum. i think we have three good candidates and who you vote for is more of a function of who you are than who they are. >> greta: if senator santorum were the nominee, what would be his gravest vulnerability against president obama in a general? >> well, we really don't know that because we really -- he hasn't been vetted. he hasn't been serious enough contender to be vetted. one of the nice fwhings what is going on, even though it looks ugly, we are learning all the bad news about newt and mitt. by the time they run against obam ait will be steal news, like reverend wright was when obama ran. but we really don't know the negatives on santorum yet. santorum has to hope that we
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find it out because that means he would become viable. >> greta: dick, thank you. >> i thought one of the big things tonight was both gingrich and romney hinted that they would name marco rubio as their vice-president. >> greta: well, they near florida. that's a good choice to say that there. >> it's a good choice in america. >> greta: tonight, former speaker newt gingrich does it again, taking aim at media, firing back at the moderator, wolf blitzer. >> i want to reiterate and ask you, are you satisfied righted now with the level of trance parency -- transparency as far as his personal finances. >> we have a great relationship, goes back a long way. i am with him. this is a nonsense question. [cheers and applause] >> how about if the four of us agree for the rest of the evening, we will talk about the issues that relate to governing america. >> mr. speaker, you made an issue of this saying that he lives in a world of swiss bank
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and cayman island bank accounts. i didn't say that, you did. >> i am perfectly happen happy to see -- to say that in know interview. >> you make a serious accusation against governor romney, you need to explain that [boos from crowd]. >> you want to try again? >> wouldn't continue nice if people didn't make accusations somewhere else and they weren't willing to defend here? [cheers and applause] >> now fox news political analyst brit hume is here. what do you think the florida voters got tonight? >> depends on whether you are talk about this ones in the hall or the ones watching the television. i am sure they got the same as the rest of us, which was, i think, dick morris is a guy i have always regarded as not always right, but always certain. tonight i think he was certain and right, this is a race where newt gingrich needed to change
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the trajectory and that clip is a perfect illustration. when he made that criticism, the thunder had been stolen by rick santorum who was the first to lodge the objection, which is newt turned to him and said, do you want to try again? i don't think newt gingrich got out of that the mileage that he got in the debates in south carolina. furthermore, to add to the point, think how well newt did with the indignation in the debates in south carolina. tonight, early, it was mitt romney, calling the speaker out, on calling him anti-immigrant, which the speaker had backed off on in one ad and it seems that romney scored on him heavily and gave romney a chance to put the speaker off guard. i don't think the speaker had the night he needed. >> greta: as you look at debate, a lot of people have already voted voted in florida. a lot of this is political theater for those who have
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already voted. >> that's true. i guess, there are upwasheds of 150,000 people have voted. one assume, based on the polling that was done before we got to florida, for most of the cycle, romney was ahead and he doll better with that. but you never know. you know, it will be decided on tuesday. >> greta: what does congressman ron paul get out ofn -- out of this? i ran out of time whiffs talking to dick morris. what does ron paul get out of this? >> he keeps his voice alive on domestic and foreign policy. he gives them a voice and a figure, larger than they have ever had. he will be a factor at the convention because he will come with a not insignificant block of delegates. he will be someone that the party has to deal with. it remains to be seen what they will have to do to keep him
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happy to unite the party. >> same thing with senator santorum? >> i think rick santorum had a wonderful night tonight. i thought he was very effective. you know, his campaign is chronically underfunded. if it weren't, one imagines he might be doing virtual indeed and he might be the alternative to mitt romney, based on tonight's performance. i bet a lot of florida voters felt that way. rick santorum needed to catch fire in an unbelievable way, enough so that he will be able to raise the money he will need to campaign effectively in a lot of states across the country. he doesn't have that. that's holding him back. >> greta: one of the issues that wasn't asked tonight, or i missed it if it was, the gay question. i think that he can't underestimate the power of that, should rick santorum get the nomination. a lot of americans are very unhappy with his position. >> people may not favor gay marriage.
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he's been very against that. but i think if they catch what they sense, particularly in a republican, is the whiff of intolerance -- i am neutral on whether they will say that. it is a risk. you have a very strong position on a sensitive issue like this. independents will tend to be wary of anyone they think is intolerant. and if that label were to stick to santorum, it would be very difficult for him in a general election. >>r. >> greta: dick morris raised the question of the national health care, which is governor romney's, i think his problem to contend with. but he's right n. june, should the supreme court declare this national health care unconstitutional, in whole or part, that would exchange change, the obama campaign. >> let's assume the supreme court doesn't throw it out. let's assume that obamacare is still standing. all mitt romney needs to do to, i think, satisfy people, is to
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convince them that whatever he may have done in massachusetts, he's prepared to repeal obamacare, will support that. i don't think this election will turn on obamacare. i think it's going to turn on obama and the totality of his record. if people decide, come fall, they are prepared to make a change, they will look at the republican candidate and decide if this is someone they feel comfortable with as an acceptable replacement for barack obama. the one that in their eyes is the least extreme may be the one they turn to, which is i didn't think the republican party can't fool around with newt gingrich, a fireball. he could be -- he might be terrific in a debate, but my sense is that the one thing newt gingrich nationally has never been in all of the arc of his career since he was speaker and beyond, he has never been popular with the public at large. >> greta: but this time, he seems to have sparked popularity -- >> within the republican party. >> greta: people are looking at -- yes. i mean, i guess the independents
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is who he has to get. >> hey upside down with the independents? >> greta: he is talking about the space program. it is not -- i am afraid to count anybody out. >> i think independents are worried about the deficit, deficits and debt and the overall economy. >> greta: but who makes them feel good? we know the right answer, you are supposed to say you are concerned about that. >>f if you are worried about the economy in ohio or indiana or texas or any of these big states -- or any of the swing states, ohio certainly being one of them. are you voting for newt gingrich over someone else because you think he will further the space program-- no. i used that as an example. that won't get us the jobs, but it might inspire people to think he characters he's exciting and fun. he thinks big. >> that's true-- i think that that could be
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an elixir for some. >> all things equal, it's an advantage to be seen as a big ideas and big goals for a big country that has done big things. this is different. people are looking for government to do less, spend less and for the private economy to flourish because of that and i think a significant majority of people believe that's how it works. in this election, you don't want to be a candidate with a big idea for something new for government to do? >> i have watched the unemployment rate, utle -- ultimately? tomorrow, we will jump on a plane and head to florida to get on newt gingrich's campaign bus to interview him. tomorrow night, we will take ow board the gingrich bus. you will hear what speaker gingrich has to say about tonight's debate as well, as everyone's heading into this sizzling hot florida primary. "on the record," live from florida, tomorrow 10:00 p.m. coming up, senator santorum is
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>> iran's president says he is ready to talk. but is he? today, president ahmadinejad says he will restart talks with world powers, but says he will not cave to western demands and sanctions. so, okay? what's really going on. john bolton joins us. as always, i am always suspicious we are being played by ahmadinejad. but tell me, what should i read into this new interest in restarting talks? >> lthe only thing surprising or interesting is that this didn't happen several years ago. you know, the iranians over time have used negotiations to great effect to buy time, to advance their nuclear weapons program, to gain legitimacy, as you say, to play the west. i think he is prepare toad do it
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again. so from their point of view, this is an excellent opportunity to get the europeans engaged and slow the momentum of sanctions and buy more time. >> greta: all right. he says he's not giving up any nuclear enrichment program. so what is the point of these talks? are we supposed to try to wear him down to change his mind? or is he trying to wear us down? >> well, he uses the oarkze negotiations for his purposes. he has no intention of giving up the uranium enrichment activity or the nuclear weapons program. he is happy to try to induce the obama administration and the europeans to offer him concessions to loosen sanctions and to postpone the effective day date of sanctions, to reduce sanctions already in place. but there isn't going to be any compromise on this. and he knows that. that's the failure of the west, this obsession with getting back to the negotiating table, without any clear idea of what even our objectives are, once we
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sit down, once we get past "hi, how are you?" >> greta: well one of the president's cabinet officers is shaken, ray lahood, his son is in egypt and not being perted to leave. it looks like the military government there will not help us out, at least right now in getting him back. your thoughts on that? >> well, i think this is very serious, not just because it's a cabinet secretary's son, although we care about all of them. it's the implicit threat that by not letting these people leave that they are going to be subject to arrest for engaging in activities that were approved under the mubarak government of democracy-building kinds of projects. so i think it's not just the military i would look at here, i see the hand of the muslim brotherhood as well. they are trying to push out western programs, uses in particular, that have helped democracy. that's not good whether the military's in back of this or the muslim brotherhood.
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it's a very serious symbol of problems for the united states in the very near future. >> greta: certainly, it's a chilling effect because he's there on a pro-democracy, trying to help the government. flankly, i wouldn't be enthusiastic to go and do that myself, knowing they could detain me and try me and do whatever they intend to do. >> precisely. it's also a signal to egyptians, to the egyptian press and activists and christians and others that they better watch themselves as well. so i think this is a time for the administration, for now, behind the scenes, but to go to the military, to go to the political leaders and say, you better stop this, right now, or your entire foreign aid budget from the united states is going to be in jeopardy. if we can't draw the line at protecting our own citizens, engagedin activities the government of egypt newknew about and approved about, we
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have little or no hope of exerting leverage over the camp david accords or the larger issue ofacy and stability in the middle-east. >> greta: you can't understate the importance of egypt to israel and what is going on there. ambassador, thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> greta: up next, senator rick santorum is here. he just got off from the fiery debate stage. he's here to tell us all about it. and the terrifying moment after the cruiseship hits the rocks. we are getting a very close look at the passengers' desperate attempt to flee the ship. the chilling new pictures and the chilling new pictures and the latest on a [ male announcer ] imagine facing the day with less chronic osteoarthritis pain. imagine living your life with less chronic low back pain.
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>> greta: well, it's not what it looks like tmay look like a two-man fight, but not so fast. have you to see the results of the latest poll. it pits each candidate against president obama. right now, governor romney is tied with president obama at 45%. but president obama leads newt gingrich by 11 points. but here's the surprises. president obama leads senator rick santorum by a smaller margin than speaker gingrich, just 9 points and leads ron paul by only 8 points. good evening, senator santorum. >> how are you, greta? >> i am very well. dick moris and brit hume were here and they said you did very well. that's good news. but the bad news, while you were
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debating at 9:12, we got a press release from the mitt romney campaign n. campaign, they cite your february 1, 2008 endorsement of governor romney, in which you said, he's the candidate who would stand up for conservative principles and he is the clear conservative. now you are saying that's you. what happened since 2008? >> what happened since 2008, governor romney, who was supposed to be a conservative who believed in free markets, came out and endorsed the wall street bailout. this was the man who sold himself as being the person who understood business and free markets in the last few months, talked about the importance of destructive capitalism, like constructive cap tamitallism. but he was for the government injecting itself in and taking over banks and injecting itself into the private sector like we have never seen, the biggest bailout in the history of the country. he betrayed -- i supported mitt romney because he said he
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changed his stripes. but not only did he not change his stripes on that. but right now, i find out a lot more details as romneycare has been implemented, he stood by it again tonight. governor romney is not the right guy for this race and that's why i am standing here and hopefully will be the nominee. >> greta: all right. all the things that preceded 2008, the difference when the way he voted in other things and his view, things he said, preceding 2008 and you let go and endorsed him and now the bailout has changed your view of him? >> it's the bailouts and standing by romneycare, when it is in fact, the basis for obamacare. it is -- in new hampshire, standing up and saying that he believes in global warming and he need to do something about t. this is a tiger that didn't change his tripe stripes. he said, i'll be different. he was running against john
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mccain, a moderate. he said, no, i will be more conservative. and it turned out to me that he wasn't special he wasn't sincere in the real changes in how he sees government interacting with business. >> greta: health care, i have heard you say, one of his biggest vulnerabilities because of massachusetts. i am curious, if the supreme court should declare the health care law unconstitutional in whole or in part by the end of june, when the term ends and so by the time the general election comes along, that's not an issue, does that change his vulnerability, vis-a-vis a race against president obama, in your mind? >> well, we are not going to know in all likelihood what that decision is before the people in florida and everyone else make their decision. it is an incredible vulnerability. they may -- there are all sorts of things the supreme court could do. they could leave the rest of the bill in place. governor romney sided with
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top-down, government control of a sector of the economy, instead of believing in free marks and free people. he did so with the wall street bailout. he did so with cap and trade. this is a recent pattern, since he was governor that we shouldn't have as our nominee for this party, particularly given the fact, greta, that the tea party started because of those three issues. here's the conservative base of our party that will be deflailt flated if he or speaker gingrich are the nominee of the party. >> greta: all right. i watched you -- you watched the fight going on in the debate between speaker gingrich and governor romney. it is like, then you got to be, for lack of a better word, you got to be the boy scout and say stop with the petty personal politics. i think you waited for a good opportunity to do that. i am curious -- to what extent does this fact that they are going at each other so aggress iferl help you, or help your
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strategy to win the nomination? >> it points out on the big, substantive issues, there is not difference between the two of them on the important issues. when it comes to health care, cap and trade, wull street bailouts, when you look at the immigration -- a whole host of things, these two have had very inconsistent records. they don't attack each other on substance, they are attacking each other on personal things because on substance, they are pretty inconsistent and moderate on a lot of issues. that's why we need someone like me who has been a conservative and unlike the other two, run as a conservative and win and get the democratic votes. the reagan democrats. that's the base that i have been able to-- can you get the independents -- do you think you could get independents, come general election? i only have 30 seconds, sorry. >> yes. independents are looking for someone with a clear vision of the country. they vote more on leadership and
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the photos show life boats sailing away from the partly submerged ship. not everyone could escape. in the first hours after the crash, 3 bodies were found. so far, 16 deaths have been confirmed and another 16 people are missing, including two americans. and today, salvage crews made preprician to attempt to pump the one half million gallons of fuel from theship. on saturday, they will try to begin removing the fuel, racing to prevent an environmental disaster. we keep going deeper and deeper and deeper into debt. today, the senate cleared the way for a $1.2 trillion hike in our debt ceiling. senate republicans could not block president obama's request. we talked to senator majority leader mitch mcconnell. great to see you. >> good to be back. >> greta: okay. last august, there was a big battle over what to do with the debt seal ceiling and a deal was
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struck that there would be 3 times that it would be raised. and the third one is now. but in the senate, there was a vote to -- to prevent -- i guess it wasn't a real vote because nobody expected it to prevail. but explain it. >> the congress gave to the president the authority to request us to raise the debt ceiling. he submitted his request. that is subject to a resolution of disapproval, in other words, i don't agree to raising the debt ceiling. if that passes, he can veto it. so it didn't guarantee a debt ceiling increase, dubut it made him ask for it. we thought that was appropriate. he has been in favor of increasing the national debt 35%. we thought the responsibility awl ought to be on him and it is. >> greta: as part of the deal, there was a super committee created it and they were supposed to come up with cuts to figure out how it pay for for this and if that didn't happen, there would be an automatic cut
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in january 2014. now that the president asked for the third raising of the debt ceiling, part of the august deal, do you anticipate between now and january 14, he is going to have to come back and ask for more money to raise the debt ceiling? >> yea. i think the secretary of the treasury will let us know when they're going to ask for another one. it was anticipated, the administration was awfully interested in not having to ask for this again before the election. but only the economy and the receipts of the federal government will determine at what point the president or maybe even the next president asks us to raise the debt ceiling gen. we don't know for sure, but the debt ceiling increase that was approved today will cover the anticipated debt that the administration anticipated through the end of 2012. >> greta: when the deal was cut in august, it was anticipated that the president would ask for a one-two-three raising, was it
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anticipated that he would ask for the third and final one as early as now? >> yeah, it was. i mean, this covers -- basically, the $1.2 trillion sequester that will go into effect over the course of the next 10 years, so the sequester is counted in to the debt ceiling. he didn't want to have to deal with this issue again before the election, as part of the broader agreement that we gave him the ability to ask for tbut we also gave members of congress the ability to vote against the request and many of us did. >> what's going to happen? the debt ceiling keeps getting raised. >> we have to quit spending. this administration has driven up the debt 35%. this year a lone, we have a travellion and-a-half debt. we have been on a spending spree of gar gantuan proportions. that has to sput.
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those of us who would like to spend less do not have the senate or the white house. and so the ability to reduce spending and get a result -- we can advocate reducing spending, but getting a result has proven to be very difficult. >> greta: does the senate have any appetite for cutting the spending? or is it a fight over what they cut? >> yeah. i remember asking the colleagues, is there anything in the budget -- anything! that you would be willing to cut? without raising taxes? i can't find anything. we can't seem to find anything they are willing to cut, unless we also raise taxes. look, we don't have this problem because we tax too little. we have this problem because we spend too much. you could raise -- you could take all the tax money of all the individuals in this country who are in the so-called top 1% and you couldn't convert deficit for one year. >> greta: have you spoken -- do
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you sit down the two of you, with harry reid and talk about, you know, how to figure out what to cut, whether there is anything to cut without the companion raising the taxes? >> sure. we have had plenty of conversations. >> greta: what happens? >> we don't get anywhere-- at all? >> no! i just told you-- i know -- >> but no! >> greta: how about waste and fraud? >> >> i can't get them to cut a penny without raising a pen netaxes. well, we already are taking a huge amount of revenue off of taxes. we can't solve this problem by raising tax. >> greta: i tell you how i think -- i would be so bold to speak for the american people. the people see the tremendous amount of money in the waste and fraud pot that could help a little bit. it won't change the debt tremendously. they see the report of a number of people whooshing for the federal government in the executive branch and staffers who are not paying their taxes, that they have a tax bill. they see that there is money
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fleeting around there that presumably could be collected somehow, whether it's the waste and the fraud or the unpaid tax of employees. >>erb's in favor of getting rid of waste, fraud and abuse. we can start tomorrow. but that isn't nearly enough to cut the spending and the amount that we need to do to get the house in order. >> greta: but it sends a message to the american people -- >> we need to do more than send the message. we need to do this sore sort of thing. we have a debt the size of our economy. that looks a lot like greece. we are on the way to a complete entitlement society like europe. if you want to know what's going on, look at europe. >> greta: we are beginning to look like greece, if the status quo stays, where would you anticipate we would be in greece? >> i don't know how quickly, but quicker than any of us would like, swlu a debt the size of
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our economy, we begin to look a lot like greece and western europe. you know, the best way to sum up western europe, margaret thatcher said the trouble with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money. that's what has happened in europe and we are on the same path. this administration is leading us down the same path. unless they are stopped by the people of this count flee november of 2012, they will continue to take us down the western european path. >> greta: in your view, i know you want a republican president, you want a republican senate, in you're view, if president obama gets a second election and the numbers don't change in the senate and we have four more years, as is, where are we in four years from now? >> well, unless the president has an epiphany, if he has a second term, if the same barack obama shows up in the second term and objects to any serious effort to cut spending or save entitlements for future generations, we will make dramatic progress in the wrong
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direction, heading in the direction of greece. >> greta: point of no return? >> no one knows where the point of no return is. you used to think that having a debt the size of your economy was a point of now return. we have already reached that. the only reason we look as good as we do is that the europe europeans look so much worse. >> greta:r. >> greta: thank you. president obama is no oprah in pitching books -- or is he? see what his negative review is doing for governo
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>> you have seen our top stories, but here's the best of the rest. remember this picture? jan brewer putting her finger in president obama's face? well, she was here last night, "on the record," to discuss that picture and her conversation with the president on the tarmac in arizona. but there is more news. apparently after that tarmac finger pointing, her book began flying off the shelves. and according to amazon.com, before the tip, the book was 276,665 in sales. but today, late today, it has skyrocketed up the charts to number 10 and is selling like hotcakes. and president obama tells abc
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news that the incident was blown out of proportion. and intruder in the cockpit delays an air canada flight for hours. but it is not what you think. it's ripples, a cat. it seep when is his owner boarded the plane, ripples escaped from a carry-on crate and ran through the cab and i know hid in a small opening under the cockpit. maintenance workers had to remove panels from the cockpit to free the scared cat. the flight was delayed four hours. ripples was just fine, but it's last plane trip. >> a close call caught on camera. the roof collapses in this hockey rink in slovakia, tons of debris fell onto the ice. moments before the collapse, a hockey team was practicing on the ice. they ran for cover, as the roof started to crack and cave in. luckily, no one was hurt. but a few rattled nerves. heavy snow on the roof caused the collapse. thru have it, the best of the
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>> greta: 11:00 is almost here, flash those studio lights it's time for last call. the pundists may have moved on but late night comedians are not yet finished with the state of the union. >> an analyst says the state of the union address was written so that 8th graders could understand it. yeah. which explains the part where obama said i wasted bin laden, lmao. >> and that is your last call. lights are blinking and we're closing down shop. we'll see you tomorrow night live from florida we're going to take you on a campaign bus. stick around, make sure you come back tomorrow night. right now go to gretair